We too raised $$ for pagan babies. Pictures of Cherub-faced Indian, African, and Asian babies graced small cardboard Im thinking, maybe, that I qualify as a pagan baby. I think the Catholic church needed better PR people back then. Only we had to write JMJD, for Dominic, as ours were Dominican nuns. on a regular basis. Theres the priority. "I loved Pagan Babies. - Kathy F. Holy Hacks: Everyday Ways to Live Your Faith & Get to Heaven, Youth Pilgrims Write a New Chapter for South Sudan, Catholic Bookstore Sues Jacksonville Over Law it Says is a Trans Pronoun Mandate, Heres How Half of U.S. Abortions Could Be Stopped This Week, Argentina: New Book Gives Pope Francis Responses to Issues Hes Most Often Asked About. When I attended Corpus Christi Catholic School in the 1950s and 1960s there was a program we all called Pagan Babies . They were called pagan babies, certainly not the most sensitive appellation and one that would never be used today. Check out our pagan babies selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade pieces from our shops. I do not remember the term pagan babies at all, although I remember the little paper boxes quite well. Happy Fathers Day! Its a mystery! Without her mothers knowledge ! Someone must have decided it was no longer a good way to raise money for Catholic missions. went into some general fund and wasnt really sent where we imagined that it was sent at the time . You must have JavaScript enabled to use this form. They folded out . It seemed like an almost daily ordeal for the class nun to individually quiz each student, asking if they had made a contribution on that particular day. We were wondering how much trouble Cary would get into . I remember those statues . Thanks for commenting! Those who would like to know what became of their pagan babies will soon get a chance to find out when Pontifical Mission Societies formally launches its Great Works Campaign in the coming months. At every Catholic school in those days were That means that many of our grandbabies are pagan babies! Sold by themeekdontwantit | Ends on 2023-03-07 21:40:38. - Bob H. I cant guarantee your sanity , but Im happy to have helped . They spoke for an hour and I think that every sentence they uttered had the word pagan in it . Pagan Babies is classic crime fiction from the master of suspense, New York Times bestselling author Elmore Leonard. I was not called to be a full-time missionary. A friend of mine, from back in the 80s, played guitar in a band with that name (weird thing about that is, hes Jewish). The certificates had a picture of a white little toddler sitting down with little black toddlers. It cost $5.00. The part of your story that really rang true was the fierce competition between either the girls & boys in the same classroom, or amongst each entire class in the same grade (e.g. We all knew what a pagan baby was a baby that was not baptized a Catholic, and not one in the US babies from Asia in particular. It seemed like an honorable thing, he explained. The missionary spirit was evident as Pontifical Mission Societies honored three people at the May 2 gala. There is in the heart of every priest, and I hope in the heart of every Christian, the longing to be a missionary, to be a proclaimer of the good news to the ends of the earth, he said. The Pandemic Flu of 1918 and the COVID-19 Virus. the salesman said . Always when he asked his question , no matter what the occasion , he seemed to be right smack dab in the middle of the group . All of this went out the window in my belief system a few years later, when i began to understand political realities, had a more sophisticated notion of the universe and got very tired of having philosophical questions answered by Its a mystery. My favorite question was: If God can do anything, can he create a rock so heavy he himself cannot lift it? Maybe the kids of today are more savvy . Your description is how I remember things! Cary had guts, for sure , for such a bold attempt at fraud . I was JUST telling my son about Pagan Babies when I was a little girl! baptize it and give it the name we chose." Catholics practice infant baptism because we take care of our childrens basic needs and what is more important than filling them with the Holy Spirit? Right, but there must be some type of guidelines that must be met for that to happen. Ransom a Pagan Baby (late 1950s). With respect to children who have died without Baptism, the liturgy of the Church invites us to trust in Gods mercy and to pray for their salvation. (CCC 1283). The short-lived dream pop band formed by Kat Bjelland and Courtney Love in 1985 in Portland, Oregon, United States 2. I only have one question , he said . catholic school 1978-1991. Pagan Babies | Commonweal Magazine Pagan Babies By Linda A. McMillin March 12, 2012 I am a Catholic of a certain age, a graduate of parochial school, and a former member of the Association of the Holy Childhood. But, ours were JMJD, because were had to give accolades to St. Dominic. Bonus question: Did children in Europe collect coins for the pagan babies? Pagan Babies book. He chose Herman . Some became doctors and lawyers and schoolteachers and others became lay catechists, sisters and priests, operating clinics and schools, colleges and seminaries, Father Small explained, and let me tell you something they need your help today as much as they needed it 30 and 40 years ago.. FYI : My granny was raised in Sterling . The idea was to collect money from students , nickels and dimes , for charity . I feel the same way as you do. The teachers all smiled . You missed the naming and the fold-out box ! Of course, the prizes helped. Anyone else do this? But for five dollars we could play Name That Pagan Baby . Please email comments to [emailprotected] and join the conversation on our Facebook page. The certificates were white, thick,wrinkly paper with burnt orange and brown late 60s modern catholic designs. James Dingwall picked that name and the girls immediately protested! They also helped keep things quiet. Two stories I recall from those days: one boy in my room kept bringing in UNBELIEVABLY large amounts every day (. When Father Andrew Small, O.M.I., asked who remembered them at the inaugural World Mission Dinner May 2 at the Pierre Hotel in Manhattan, a few hands went up, mostly belonging to people with gray hair. . Hey! I had one certificate for Good luck. Has anyone else heard this phrase before, and if so, do you remember what it . Philadelphia 76ers Premier League UFC. I am a recovering catholic now but am thrilled with the new Pope (too bad the old one is living in the apartment w/ is BF) he is a nasty old creep and was (or is) the sole channel for abuse victims. One of my fellow employees is reading a book called Pagan Babies. When I was in the fifth or sixth grade, a neighbor who was my age, took 12 books of S & H Green Stamps ( remember those ) and contributed them to the pagan babies program. And in pagan lands, there are pagan babies. But how ? print and digital media outlets, dedicated to reporting the truth in light of the Gospel and the I vividly remember the certificate you have posted, with the various nationalities represented. J. OBrien. In my class at St. Amelias school in Tonawanda, NY, we collected nickels and dimes in a cigar box to buy a pagan baby. Pretty danged patronizing, offensive concept it was, too. One guy talked about confession when he was in third grade. But, in fact, the entire program was rooted in a sense of solidarity and charity in the broadest understanding of the word. (And I pitched them when I went to college) I had one round flat plastic silhouette of Mary that glowed after you held it under a lamp for a bit. I suspect nowhere . I told some Catholic friends about collecting money for Pagan Babies at Dover (Ohio) St. Josephs and they had never heard of such a thing but Im sure we did it. I think most of them were in Africa and India. - Mary Ellen M. One guys said one time he was examining his conscience and realized he had tried to act like an adult, so he confessed to his priest that he committed adultery!!! Happy to know I am still sane. Theology should be at the heart of any Catholic university. ), and its name was even weirder - it was collect money to feed . I think it went to the missionaries (the seminary for The Society of the Divine Word was just two miles or so away, and we were taught by the Missionary Sisters of the Holy Ghost). Neil Getz on February 21, 2021 at 9:52 am. Her salvation was purchased for $5 at Holy Name of Jesus School in Fishtown, Philadelphia, PA. Don't know why they are so eagerly upholding pagan traditions. 4. muddymoose 4 mo. My family Lived out that way. What did we kids know ! I think there were religious pix on the stamps. The mission has a Church, Cardinal Dolan reminded his guests in his opening remarks. Steve Stahley. I remember this in Chicago St. John Fisher. My allowance was 25 cents a week . And finally they finished . We sort of ran the name together so it came out pegginbebbies. I used to contribute nickels and dimes (along with my other and less devout classmates) so together as a class we got to choose the pegginbebbies name from a list of nominees. When five dollars was collected the box would go.somewhere ..and a new box would be folded out by the teacher . ETA: and then theres this blog from someone who is completely unapologetic about their participation in the program: http://asksistermarymartha.blogspot.com/2006/08/announcing-pagan-baby-reunion.html. Thanks for your input . Of course, there was always the show-off who bought a whole pegginbebbie for themselves and got to name it without any of OUR help. Some of those Jesuits spoke directly to God . Use a knife, horseshoe, or other piece of iron. Some conspiracy mongers doubted the existence of the pagan babies, even suggesting that the sisters were raiding the schoolchildrens piggybanks to fill their own coffers or the Churchs. I spent all my paper boy money." Once some missionary priest visited and told us how the communist Chinese forced chop sticks into the ears of missionary priests there. Both ring a bell. At every Catholic school in those days were collections to save unbaptized children not taught about God (Pagan Babies). If you know tell me . Resurrection They were no doubt common . We boys , I think , had a sense of accomplishment somehow because even though he had been caught Cary still had the satisfaction of knowing that a pagan would go through life named Herman because of him . by reneeqyancy | Feb 9, 2010 | Blog | 8 comments. Ours always seemed to be colored brown . Named mine Margaret Ann. This is my question , said little Charlie Bloomquist to the salesman , If I wanted that bike , why wouldnt I go get a job and save my money until I could buy a bike . What was written on the boxes? The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes. Servant of God Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen, who once said, My greatest love has always been the missions of the Church, was very much a spiritual presence at the dinner, where his name was invoked several times. My mom was not into that kind of stuff. Despite its apparent condescending tone at times, it instilled a radical sense of urgency in children that we are responsible for one another.. I also remember buying 10 cent stamps that went into a book. "Baptism . time, before cynicism and political correctness found their stride. That summer in Guaymas, I learned that people in poverty needed more than goodwill, and that social justice was not a simple matter of collecting spare change and sending it off to the right folks. I told that I learned math through confessionit had been two weeks since my last confession, I was mean to my brothers every day, so that was fourteen times, I disobeyed my parents almost every day, so that was about ten times, etc., etc. I won the [ now I really dont remember which of the above things I won ] but a classmate wanted to exchange her prize , the other thing , for mine . - Betty L. There was something he needed to know . I went to catholic school the same time you did. Along the way, in all the villages we passed through, there were people who were full of joy to see young people. Why would I sell overpriced candy to people and never get the bike anyway because no one could sell that much candy anyway ? Steve, Thanks for the kind comment . My first lessons in social justice came through saving pagan babies. She went to Catholic school too, and I dont know if they had pagan babies then, but I bet they did. Everywhere a pagan pagan . Order Bulk SubscriptionsGet a discount on 6 or more copies sent to your parish, organization Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, retired Archbishop of Washington; best-selling author Mary Higgins Clark; and television commentator Larry Kudlow were each named 2012 Pontifical Ambassadors for Mission. I thoroughly enjoy your posts. St. Paul noted that baptism replaces circumcision and circumcision was for infants. This is a serious problem. "I remember those." I mentioned pagan babies and Im still not sure if they believed me. Pagan babies may have disappeared from collection boxes but they started showing up in our families. I have often wondered whatever happened to my pagan baby Beverly Anne. I always thought it was amazing that I could have this baby and name her and feed her forever! Or a beer. The only money we collected in little paper boxes was for UNICEF and to be perfectly honest, Im not even entirely sure what UNICEF is. And yet the fundamental mission of the Holy Childhood Associationits efforts to create in children of privilege some sense that they are responsible for and obligated to help other children in needwas not lost on me. We can smile at it now at perhaps how silly it was, Father Small said. With touching little pictures of hungry children. I should have asked them if they had ever run into any pagan named Herman . . SubscribeStart your Register subscription today. Each time I hope to combine for them the Holy Childhoods call of responsibility with the lessons I learned in Guaymas: the difference between pity and solidarity, the complexity of the global structures that create poverty and need, and the smallness of our efforts at making a difference. Oh my goodness! I dont think he really believed me. Read an Excerpt. 11 Facts About Murdered Bishop David OConnell, Cameron Bertuzzis Conversion to Catholicism, and More Great Links! But Father Small, national director of the Pontifical Mission Societies in the United States, wasnt apologizing for the old adoption program in which children in Catholic schools would save their pennies. He didnt say that the big winner was the salesman himself , who had spent only a couple of hours with the principal and with the students but now had three hundred children who would be desperately trying to sell his candy for the next two weeks . Seen the movie Mea Culpa? Anybody have some spare change ? Adopt A Pagan Baby - 1959. Other notable guests included Cardinal Sean OMalley, Archbishop of Boston; Bishop Bejoy DCruze of Sylhet, Bangladesh; actor Andy Garcia, who stars in the film For Greater Glory, which opens June 1; and Noel Campbell, who rode Amtrak for three days from the Coeur DAlene Indian Reservation in northwest Idaho to New York to attend the event. Anyone have proof the Catholic Church ( the dedicated Nuns ) were able to get the pagan baby money to its intended recipients? My friend Sue, a Lutheran by way of Methodism cant get head around buying pagan babies. In the book, Pope Francis also addresses corruption at the Vatican, abuses committed by members of the Church, the COVID-19 pandemic, Russias invasion of Ukraine, among other topics. But , heres the thing : When the class had five dollars then that class got to name a pagan baby . Yesit must have been everywhere even Deer Lodge, Montana where I went to Catholic School. This brings back a memory now. Im 50, and though Ive heard the term pagan babies (mainly in books by people a little older than me) , it wasnt used when I was in Catholic school from about 1969-77. They folded out . She was managing editor and co-author of Ascension Press bestselling Amazing Grace series. I went to a Catholic grade school from 1984 to 1994 and have never heard the term. My Catholic neighborhood friends and I would have a carnival like MD carnivals sponsored by Jerry Lewis. To get the bike we have to sell nine million thirty six thousand three hundred and eight candy bars .. The students were raring and ready to go sell the candy and get the prizes . Ask for their blessings so that your home will remain safe and happy, or if you do not follow a particular deity, you can alternately ask the . Do you know if I could list my pagan baby on my tax return as a dependent? I remember a little plastic Jesus and pencil cases . . There have to be plenty of them around somewhere . And my mother prayed. - Vera Marie C. I thought they would all come in a box and be distributed at the end of the school year. Ransom and Baptism? We'd all suggest names, and then vote for the one we liked best. So then there was an ethical issue that , in some elementary way , even we students recognized . Great memories!!! DUDE! 3:21; cf. Yeah . And when I got it, I was going to take care of it all by myself. People needed food, water, medical care, and were looking to us to step up and provide it. The assembly was buzzing . sacraments. But Cary was caught . I too went to Catholic School in CA, and we definitely collected money for the Pagan babies. Posted Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:53 am PT | Updated Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:40 pm PT. We all nodded and agreed. Never knew it meant Justice under God though . I attended Dominican High School (1966 to 1970) and actually it was in those years that I started my wayward path. We wonder where those name choices really went . EIN 27-4581132 Well, when mama found out, she threw a fit. I love the four Beatles pagan babies idea and the adultery thing ! . , Those madcap Catholics. He's probably still wondering, "How did I wind up with Pagan babies are certainly a uniquely Catholic childhood memory! In most classrooms to encourage donations, the nuns pitted the boys against the girls. When I was young, in South Philadelphia, I have memories of collecting for Trees for Israel and the Allied Jewish Appeal. For a baby girl, Sister always pushed us to choose Mary something - Mary Beth, Mary Alice, Mary Margaret, Mary Catherine, Mary Jane, whatever. Of course, we collected money in the little paper boxes " for the missions" and I seem to remember something about either the school or each class "adopting"one of the mission children. Give a Gift SubscriptionBless friends, family or clergy with a gift of the Register. Thanks for commenting. She thought that it would be the greatest thing in the world for me to become a nun. And then the certificate was put up above the chalkboard. But the pagan babies were actual children being looked after by missionary sisters, brothers and priests in their countries. Save that document. I dont remember collecting money for them. American Women Quarters 2023 Rolls and Bags - Bessie Coleman MULTI (D) (P) (S) $40.00 - $60.00 Shop Now 22EH American Eagle 2022 One Ounce Gold Uncirculated Coin West Point (W) $2,670.00 Add to Bag 17XA American Liberty One Ounce 225th Anniversary Gold Coin West Point (W) $2,765.00 Add to Bag Coin Sets Seems like the boxes looked like animal crackers boxes . Our principal determined that Hush Puppies were insurance against black scuffmarks in halls and classrooms. I also had a more personal reason for hitting the $5 markthe point at which you actually saved a baby and got naming rights. I kept a large plastic Seagrams Seven bottle bank in my room at home that I put all my loose change into to save up for stuff I wanted and an occasional pagan baby. That reflects a certain dignified sincerity on your part , I think . A set or two of golf clubs may have been in there . Now they're in together for a bigger payoff than either could finagle alone. in the classroom to see who had the most babies. That was the early sixties . It was probably a good lesson in giving for us little ones ; but , the money - probably not a huge sum overall - ? The principal stepped forward , to the rescue , saying coldly , Its a fundraiser for the school . He didnt mention his new stereo system . Good question , though , about where all the money went . And yet sometimes the answer was as simple as getting down on hands and knees to join the woman scrubbing the floor, to learn her technique and listen to her story. Weird, the kind of memories we carry over from childhood, isnt it? If my parents would only let me go to public school, the church might have had another nun. When our family moved to another part of Dearborn, we transferred to St Alphonsus parish, and I traded the blue jumper for a plaid one, and the beanie for Hush Puppy shoes. I assume that all of the other Catholic schools in the archdiocese were doing the same thing . Design by. Saving pagan babies occurred during a simpler time, before cynicism and political correctness found their stride. I remember collecting for Pagan Babies in my Catholic elementary school (I went to public high schoolwith the publics). EWTN News, Inc. is the worlds largest Catholic news organization, comprised of television, radio, I still suspect the money collected ( probably in actuality just chicken-feed ? ) The novel begins in Rwanda.The protagonist is a priest named Terry Dunn. Band Name!! Then we got a certificate and the children got a medal. Im still not so sure . And most students did sacrifice that 5-cent candy money for the cause of bringing the word of god to the uneducated families somewhere in the world that the missionaries, usually Maryknolls stil active in missionary work today were working to convert the pagans usually Africa, in my day (probably deepest, darkest Africa). In addition we'd go and bless our herbs in the garden and around on Midsummer and then harvest them for John's night or the night before depending on the weather. is the gateway to life in the Spirit, and the door which gives access to the other Being a Jewish kid born and raised in South Philadelphia, I never heard about Pagan Babies until I married my Catholic Bride. It barely rings a bell hearing something about pagan babies. My vocation has been in education, and in the thirty-plus years since my summer in Mexico I have accompanied students on many short sojourns to the front lines in Tijuana, Nicaragua, El Salvador, East Los Angeles, New Orleans. 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