Admitting his culpability only after lying to law enforcement, whom he first told that the girl shot herself while cleaning her weapon. What? Theres only one parent. There was some sort of a large object, apparently of toy, at the crime scene that was too large for BG to have had it with him on the bridge. The others are guardians. If you have heard about this case and wish to discuss it, feel free. I read your recent blogs about the Delphi murders, and you have a ton of info. And those are just a few of the suspected serials running around free. And I seriously doubt that any of those POIs have access to all of those sensitive case documents or that any of them have a personality like that. Delphi residents and those closely following the case were stunned when, on April 22, 2019, the Indiana State Police announced the case was moving in a "new direction." Law enforcement released a very brief video clip of the main suspect walking along the bridge, and a revamped version of the audio clip released in 2017 that said, "Guys . Allen, who has entered . Sister of Delphi Murder Victim Is Studying Criminal Justice to Help Homicide Victims' Families The 2017 killings of Libby German and Abby Williams are the subject of tonight's episode of People . Do have any knowledge the workers from Indiana who were transferred over there in 2011-2012, which plant they came from Indiana and which plant they came to work on in Evansdale? For more information, please see our Currently, no arrests have been made, and the investigation continues. DAs require a very high standard of evidence to bring a homicide charge against someone. The search warrant list a number of items that LE is looking for. If anyone else is involved they know who it is. We believe he could have been staging that elaborate crime scene during that time. Busy location with a diner nearby. The theory is that he was in on these murders for mercenary reasons, such as a malign desire to purchase Ron Logans land. An asterisk means the information is proven via LE information leaked to us. Why would they deliberately contradict their own beliefs? In general, the less said about the other aspects of his life the better, and they have no relationship to this case anyway. How often to killers, of children or otherwise, take fucking photos and videos of their goddamned crimes? Were they are waiting for God Himself to come bring the keys? Thats why all the smoke and mirrors. BG must have fired his gun at some point in this crime. I cant demand that my friends give me money! Its burgundy. Find these clothes, they will be what solves this! But alas, he raped one lass too many, and the law closed in on him holed up in his home, which now resembled Dodge City. How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? I didnt mean to imply that, sorry. Hes a straight man with a wife, but maybe hes wimpy like a lot of straight men are. I see T. Neighboring state. I dont know about you, but when I go to a nearby town, I dont generally take my cellphone and throw it in a bunch of weeds for the five hours that I was gone, coming back to my home hours later to retrieve it from the weeds. The murders of Liberty "Libby" German, 14, and Abigail "Abby" Williams, 13, shocked the small town of Delphi, Indiana because of their apparent randomness. (WPTA/WNDU) - Documents have been released in the Delphi murders case, but questions about the evidence and how Abby Williams and Libby German died remain. BTW whats up with all the psychic stuff? Dime a dozen. Twice in the the Evansdale Murders, LE thought they were certain that they had the right man. He is wearing a deer kit, which contains five different types of knives. Im thinking theres around 10 more people, in addition to the four youve mentioned, that are involved with a retaliation/revenge motive. Friends with Ron Logan on whose property the crime occurred. IUPUI forensic science professor provides context on Delphi murders investigation, Cardinal Robert McElroy to speak at Notre Dame Forum event on war, peace, Reward offered after bald eagle killed in southern Indiana, 20-year-old man shot after allegedly striking 18-year-old woman with car in Elkhart, Eli Lilly to cap out-of-pocket cost of insulin at $35 a month, Sectional boys basketball highlights 2/28. Mr. Lindsay, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. That would mean he would have had to drive back to Delphi by at least 3:45 and possibly later, depending on what town he was in and when he left. If you met me, you would laugh at them for saying that. 6) He has a family member thats buried in the cemetery near the Monon Bridge. Investigators are searching for the killer using their biggest clue: a recording of his voice from one of the victims' phones ordering the girls Down the Hill. We believe he did this because there may have been incriminating evidence in there. There was posing. Of course she did. The only case I am familiar with is the Bittaker-Norris Murders in Southern California. Robert, I believe Mr. X has an ex-wife. I just like to take this opportunity to thank the Mods in making this subreddit Delphimurders readable again and to the posters who post informative, well thought out COMMENTS. There were definitely some perverse acts done to these girls, but I believe they were done to them after they were already dead. He met few if any of those girls he was talking to. There are 244 comments there. CDP CDP+ Delphi DS150 Delphi DS150E with Autocom 2014. No, he came up with the lost my keys gambit to explain why his car sat at the cemetery from 6:30 PM the day of the crime to 12:30 PM the next day when the girls bodies were found, a period of 18 full hours. He has dealt with his grief with silence and hiding himself away. Hes a greedy businessman with dollar signs in fluttering eyes that sound like clanging cash registers every time he blinks. He concurred that a high error rate is normal early in the investigation and he also said that by 4-5 years later, you may well get a much clearer picture of the crime. Ive looked this man over and I cant think of anyone less likely to commit this crime. Are you speculating? Brad Holder: Brads son, Jason, was Abbys boyfriend. Please email if you do not want to reply here. I sorta did wonder where he was from 12 to 430ish. On Feb. 13, 2017, the two best. And at the end, Carter says, He may even be in this room right now, (he was in fact) and then looks in the complete opposite direction of Mr. X. Problem is they only have nine markers on that partial sample. I have joined the group on face book #Delphi Murders. The roommate also said he suspected Mr. X of the Evansdale Murders because during the time of the Evansdale Murders, Mr. X and the roommate were both over in Evansdale being put up in hotels for months while they worked on a plant there. The state has to prove it. There are many cases of homicides or attempted homicides in the same category. He lives in an ivory colored mobile looking home within the country. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I dont get that vibe at all with everything I know, but then again I know very little lol. Its true by process of elimination. I was never aware that anyone had any good evidence against this harmless-looking fellow. http://whatsnewlaporte.com/2014/02/24/cold-case-killing-of-linda-weldy-10-still-waiting-to-be-solved-can-you-help/, https://truthtellersweb.wordpress.com/2017/07/22/photo-page/. Even if somehow she didnt know about some surrounding neighbors, couldnt LE just show her (or FSG or the bickering couple in the park etc,) a pic of Mr. X and get verification that way? This is simply because Ive dared to question if its possible that he was involved in any capacity or if its possible that he made misleading statements. Theyre swarming all over this crime scene, and the killer is standing right here under their noses in the midst of the chaos for hours, and these coptards cant figure this out. We think he likes to fool and troll LE. I dont get it. Thanks, Mike! Rumor is that Abbys was pink. Pay at least $20 for lifetime membership to my PayPal. I want you to know that your comment is no longer there. The first sections deal with somewhat extraneous material that you may or may not find interesting. All other POIs are dropped or cleared at least as being the killers themselves. and that you think he already knew that they would be there.. Why not join the 240+ members who have already signed up for the best Delphi sleuthing team of all? We now have a better time frame for Mr. Xs truck being parked at the cemetery. Hes innocent. Delphi murders update: Richard Allen, Delphi murder suspect, asks for public defender Law enforcement officials have so far declined to answer those questions, repeating they need to. Im a real nice guy, I treat my commenters well, and Im basically this mild-mannered, unassuming, intellectual, professor type. Not only that, but Mr. Xs alibi is that he was in another town from 2:15-3:15 PM on the day of the crime. Although no arrests have been made in the case, the transcripts detail information that puts the case back in the national spotlight. He took a piece of jewelry from Libby as a trophy thats also buried. No, LK is the real deal. The catfishing situation is not what we think. Thats technically true but in all my years of playing the part of a PIO and putting out press releases, Ive never intentionally told a lie. Great to see you back on the case! Breathe so we can comment in between paragraphs pleaser. [Featured image: Abby (l) and Libby (r)/Handout], Missing Nevada Woman Stopped Contact with Family, Police Seek Tips, Unknown Man Seen Using Missing Georgia Mans Credit Card in Baton Rouge, WATCH LIVE: Murdaugh Family Murders Day 25: Closing Arguments, subscribe to the Crime Stories with Nancy Grace podcast. If I were LE, I would take a long, hard look at Rick Brown in Delphi, Indiana. What time was RL on video eating pizza? What is this guy, another Zodiac? LE thinks he stashed his phone at the CPS building during the murders. Thank you for all the work on the Delphi case. Theyve been doing this from the very start, so this is nothing new. Indeed, he has been questioned and he is cooperating fully with the investigation. Pay minimum of $20 for lifetime membership to our group. Theres no evidence that either man has been to the bridge even one time! He stopped for gas and cigarettes. We would say it is low. The Delphi Murders were committed by a coward a small man who can only feel big when he instills fear in others but he is an organized coward. So, to end my novel, I agree with you. (inaudible), Police: You, you admitted you talked to her . Furthermore, homicide is the most serious thing you can charge anyone with. Probably at least 6 weeks pregnant if the rumors are true. The catfish had been catfishing those girls for four months. I tend to think its a doll. Get real. They even try to cure effeminate gay men and let them back in the churches as long as they say theyre cured of homosexuality. Highly suspicious and the states that are responsible are more interested in getting into pissing contests as opposed to finding her. I cannot remember which girl had taken the photo of the man on the bridge with her cell phone, but I had read somewhere that on that cell phone there was audio of her saying something about a weird man approaching them and that is why she took the photo. Resident of Delphi in 1984-85 at minimum. Ive seen some FB exchanges from BP where like you say, she appears to be defending Mr X or at least in denial that he could be a suspect. I dont know if the bridge was within eyeshot of the spot where the girls were found. Furthermore, almost nothing of consequence is being said, and it reminds you of a night with your friends drinking, and no one says one thing of importance for hours. BG made a deep cut to the throat of one victim, probably with a hatchet, that resembles the deep cuts made to the throats of pigs at some slaughterhouses. So, there is still marks that are left on that unspent ammunition that can be inspected by an expert and you can say this cartridge was once inside that weapon.. Ages approximate. Im really worried about people bothering or harming this guy and his family. Thanks Dee. BG himself is both the catfish young man and the older man who is the actual killer, so he is both sketches at once, obviously. Some connection with Libby via geocaching. That piece of information being leaked and generally accepted by the public doesnt do a damn thing to preserve the integrity of the investigation.. Why on Earth would the killer have a copy of an audio file from Libbys phone! EXCLUSIVE: Murdered Delphi teens were intended victims of 'botched' child sex kidnap plot, cops believe - as investigators dig up DEAD CAT to match hairs found on girls to alleged killer's pet. Im also sure that its used as a tactic to convince the public that they were completely justified in making whatever decisions they felt required justification. Dont listen to those idiots on Reddit! These are simply unverified rumors. Yes, this man is the prime suspect at the moment, but that doesnt mean a whole lot. However, Goodpaster says any additional forensic analysis could be the key to solving the murders. I guess I also wonder how everyone put such and effort to look only a few hours after being missing. Train tracks and you guessed it, more fields, parallel to the gas station. Similar murder conditions. I am going to bet dollars to donuts there will be a person arrested February 13th, 2022. Here's what we've learned and what remains unclear: I believe Mr. X is the guy. Police say they also discovered an unspent round from a gun near the girls bodies. They werent that close. 2-13 again. I happen to think he probably did it, but what do I know? But answer me this. Theres a connection that has been missed! So hes a murderer. Victim was an 8-12 year old female. No, he didnt kill his own granddaughter. A log was placed in front of one of the girls, and a doll was placed in front of the other girl. I dont know if they were part of the search parties. Thanks again for the interesting and jaw dropping article!!! Mr. X did not have PIV sex with either girl. February 27, 2023. By Freyja Catton. Court documents released by a true-crime podcast shed more light on the investigation of the unsolved 2017 murders to two teen girls in Delphi, Indiana. What are they doing to move this forward? Tough shit. He was married to Becky Pattys sister at the time, and I believe it was about a week afterwards that she posted on social media her husband was a monster then deleted it. Yes, the police have told us that they now think that Bridge Guy or Mr. X did Evansdale too. He hunted deer on RLs land all the time. And Mr X was involved in a Christian teen club! It turns out that we have acquired a sleuth who is a former detective. Want me to put it up anyway? On Monday, police announced that Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, was arrested and charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Libby and Abby. Weve been proven correct on eight different things that only the police could have known. Cookie Notice But they didnt get to ask him about PB. BG is a 50 year old man. They all go off and do their own work. On July 23, 2019, Etter was wanted for the kidnapping and rape of a 26-year-old woman in Tippecanoe County. This goes on all the time, however. Trials. We dont know why he asked permission to search Ron Logans land at 6:30 PM, but this is also a huge red flag because he asked to search the land a full half hour before the fire department had even announced the formation of a search team. He could have gone home, but for some reason he stayed with his truck. Our best police source just told us that Ron Logan has been absolutely cleared as a suspect. This is a community where we can speak openly about the murders of Libby and Abby while searching for justice. LE still has access to the conviction. A number of strange objects were found around the Evansdale girls similar to the bizarre images decorating the Delphi crime scene. Sources At 13 and 14 the cycles are messed up bad. Logistical occupations, Construction workers etc who travel have free reign. This what first aroused LE suspicions of Mr. X. Well, guess what? Well, the police have told us that they have a main suspect in this case, so at least I am just going to go with the cops on this one. Corn fields? (Indiana State Police) Authorities in Delphi, Indiana, have issued a fresh plea for information about a fake social media profile they suspect was used to lure two teenage girls to their deaths. We have no idea why the order was issued. Professor at a local university, known for the Geocaching Theory. Delphi, Indiana from at least 1984-2021. I appreciate your style about not being afraid to put out things others wouldnt dare & or might even get accosted over doing soThose idiots are WEAK& most of them are hypocritesSome of the new YouTubers even, they first bitch about the same thing, then they start a channel, and the next thing you know, their moderators are hacking/choking& putting that ass in the corner for hours before allowing u to crawl back in, all bruised, & compliantNot for me. If he had those objects found at the crime scene in his truck, he could have easily carried them down to the crime scene and used them to stage it with the objects. Long, 22 pages. 9) He has killed before. One of our team members talked to a detective in Kentucky a couple of years ago who told us about this expunged conviction. The main suspect according to police is a man whose name rhymes with Fat Clown. Every firearm will leave all sorts of markings on the bullets that you put into that weapon, Goodpaster said. There are cases like this all over the country. Also note that LE are now acting like they think the young catfish did the crime, not the older BG. I think this whole crime scene was severely compromised but still doable Would be interesting to know if Garett Kirts was on Ron Logans property that day. If it was an adult male, that changes things considerably. 13 Investigates has learned that the connection of the Delphi murders to the "anthony_shots" fake social media profile started with another incident reported to police just days after the bodies of Libby German and Abby Williams were discovered in February 2017. Also, a copy of the police scanner is available showing that Mr. Xs wife is supposed to be coming to the site to retrieve Mr. Xs truck. They always came home. People really seem to take him at face value and think that because he is older, hes not capable of committing such a crime. Of course, we empathize with their losses, but sympathy wears thin when someone is screaming in your face. They dont risk their careers to talk to bloggers. But I see the home is raised. Hey Robert, absolutely love reading your blogs. Your critiques are not even making sense. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I ask this because another theory says they could have gone up the creek to a barn and then they should have dry clothes. Most of Leigh Kerrs and the search party members testimony has gone into this bracket because unfortunately, while we think they are right, we cannot regard their testimony as probative. You dont need a degree, credential, and a license to do this job, you know. Instead pay attention to this new sketch, some kid. They go up to the knee and are designed to be waterproof. The main suspects DNA is found in the forest around the crime scene. He currently resides in prison for videotaping himself having sex with a 15 year old. The family knew something was wrong. It finally started to sink in to these geniuses when the case was made look one of the eye witnesses who contributed to the 1st BG sketch is a lady who lives right behind Ron Logan, dont you think if the Killer was Ron that she would say, simply yeah the guy I saw that day lives right behind me? Not that anyone who has half a brain needs to be convinced Ron Logan is not the killer lol. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. Give it a rest, dammit! Also if Kegans not involved, then neither is the father. These people are from all over the country and have expertise in all sorts of different areas. You said parent, so that gives me a clue. The LE source didnt work on the case. Ive used that a thousand times, especially when there are two or more suspects in adjacent interrogation rooms. This whole case just reeks of something stinky every which way you turn. Some people are very insistent that Ron Logan is the killer. LE has already looked into him quite a bit, and I assume hes cleared. 5) He parked near the cemetery, but not at the cemetery. I do not know why RRB is? Im not stupid. But we are not naming person. Not long afterwards, the pink stripe was removed from the truck, witnesses say. Sure hes a greedy businessman, but I doubt if hes that greedy. This week we continue our coverage of this very high profile case. Wait so the part about him recording the crime is some search warrant given to someone where the cops wanted to check media files. As CrimeOnline previously reported, 13-year-old Abby and Oh, one more thing, Jim. Was present when the Evansdale Murders occurred. The dots connecting back to Iowa with the Tyson plant etc is great investigative work. That person is probably some local creep getting revenge since those girls parents were into the same bullchit. The Murder Sheet podcast published the affidavit filed by a FBI agent asking for a warrant to search. It is certainly an interesting question, is it not? Drunkard perhaps. I also believe 1) that all of the dolls found there were not put there after the crime but that this was an area that the perpetrator visited often to perform some kind of sadistic acts using the dolls, 2) that he was at that site when he perhaps saw and/or used binoculars to spot the girls on the bridge, 3)went to the bridge and then took the girls to his sadistic-acts place to perform those acts on live persons. 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