Bickle later related that during his trip to heaven Jesus commissioned him to be one of Gods new generals to lead his end time army. Vision of the Apple TreeBy Bob JonesJanuary 2014. He was backslidden and had been out of the church for over a year in the Navy. Derek was going over the Conference and talking about where we were going. That is when really inspired-teachers began to rise up and show us a new understanding already of the written word. recorded the actual tongues of another female student, Lilian Thistlewaite. Little or no Scripture is ever mentioned. Is this Jesus the same one in the Bible? Much of our material is available for free, such as the hundreds of articles at the Way of Life web site. Christ gave only one legitimate cause, and that is fornication, yet the two said the split involves no third party on either side.. All this to say that I Love you very much, Ernie, and Im behind you 100% in this matter. William Branham, Oral Roberts, AA Allen. MB: ya know, Im going to tell you something about Bob: Ever since that time in 74 when he was filled with the Holy Spirit, he began to see the technicolor visions and the Lord began to visit him. That is a lie. . Bob Jones. .until he met Mike Bickle. Your tears are falling on those coals and theyre coming up before Papa. Well, you are free to believe what you want, but I refuse to believe this mans fantasy tales that are unbiblical to the MAX. THE GOLDEN EARRING BOB JONES: "This Bob Jones, I must now say, in light of all of the over emphasized, untested signs, just assuming theyre from God, that Bob disqualified himself years ago, never submitting to correction, from the very beginning, even before he met Mike Bickle. Bob and Bonnie Jones, Fort Mill, SC Bob had a vision of a sword of light and power; it was like - . https://thegovernmentalgoalsofgodtvpart2.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/god-tv-and-the-kcp-bob-jones-mike-bickle-john-paul-jackson-paul-cain-and-the-ernie-gruen-report-exposing-them-below/, Bob Jones and Mike Bickle channel demonic revelations. Unless the LORD builds the house, those who build it labor in vain. Ps.127:1 According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid a foundation, and someone else is building upon it. I have only listened to a few of the tapes from Kansas City Fellowship, and read only a few of their publications. Lord is there anything we can do? The prophesy was that my church at that time would fail. You are welcome to make copies of these at your own expense and share them with friends and family, but they cannot be posted to web sites. I listened to your tape earlier; and this past Sunday someone gave me a copy of your letter to Mike Bickle of April 4. I said, A movement? He said, Oh, the Lord told me you wouldnt know anything about it. We ask You to mature it. We dont take it as serious in the early days as we will in the days to come(Media Spotlight- THE RESTORATION OF APOSTLES AND PROPHETS AND THE KANSAS CITY- VINEYARD CONNECTION byAlbert James Dager). . But he is back on earth! Whats interesting is that this time revival is happening at Asbury College. despite what the doctors said, I refused to say My cancer. It was not mine. "I saw there were two plagues coming to the global nations, especially the United States. At 5 o'clock on the morning of May 27 th the Lord began to speak to me so I grabbed my pen and pad and began to write. The Rev. d. J.R. Smith, young man; date of death uncertain. I said, Oh, Lord, help us! (F88, p.11) (Highly abnormal!). Ironically, after hearing Bob tell of these visions, Mike Bickles first reaction was that of being absolutely certain that he was a false prophet:MB: So Bob Jones comes in andof course, I was looking for a false prophet and he looked like one to me. Yesterday a precious family member, Viola Jones, passed away at her home near Statesville, North Carolina. The 1970's was the Word of God. Prophecy is primarily for speak(ing) to men for their edification, encouragement, and comfort. I saw him a couple of times in the 70s, I didnt understand what it meant, I would just see the white horse(Mike Bickle interjects) The white horse always speaks in Bobs visionsIn his vision it speaks of the corporate purpose that God is bringing to pass (ibid. MB: =Mike BickleWell, I believe our history is deeply tied up, in a human sense, to Bob JonesAnd I believe that Gods goodness towards us, giving us this history, began when the Lord separated Bob Jones many, many years ago. Looks like we have our future all mapped out and Jesus has told Jones he is not coming for the church in the next 50 years. I only saw til 2060 and the church was still here and it wasnt defeated by any means. February 27, 2023 . Four years later, at age thirteen, he claims he was escorted to the throne room of God in heaven (like Cerullo and others). . How can any of this be attributed to God when Jones is so far removed from understanding the word of God, preaching the word of God and replaces it with new words from his mystical experiences that are not even related to Biblical concepts. We find out who Bob Jones White Talking Horse is and whom the angel of the Lord is. And the whole thing was shut down. But, he says, Im going to minister. And he says, My first task is to get you to believe it. I said, What movement? He said, You dont know nothin, do you? I said, The Lord just told me to come here; I dont know a clue about anything., MB: So Bob Jones comes in..And I remember his first words, as he goes, Ive seen you. And I said, And Ive seen you. And he said, Yeah, I thought you probably would. And what I meant was that I had had a prophecy about a false man that was coming. Bob said, The Lord told me in September, 82, I would sit around the communion table of this group. And they will be young people: they wont be old. The next day we got a call from another young man in the Navy, and he went to Swope Park with a couple of Black Muslims and he got drunk and he tried to swim in the lagoon out there and he drowned. Since that time he has seen many, many times, five, ten visions and dreams a night. It sounds more like the Greek myths to me. T he death of Bob Jones, Sr., at age 84 last month closed the era of hard-hitting evangelists of the Billy Sunday ilk, which reached its peak between the two world wars. They will move into things of the supernatural that no one has ever moved in before. Will and Judy Pliska, ages 31 and perhaps 29; died in the fall of 1976. .very distinct from anything Ive ever heard of or seen, or boy, I tell you, it was totally bizarre, and most of those events run over an 18-month period. His . It was after Ford threatened to sue, that Crouch paid almost a half-million dollars to keep the matter quiet. . They just died one after another. But on repentance, testimonies, the manifest presence of God., ______________________ Whats more, the prophecy said it would be a sign of a revival coming to America. This will be the end generation that is foreknown and predestinated to inherit all things. When he came into the Vineyard - I clearly remember it as I thought it was beyond bizarre. So I was settled then. Immortalization for a Melchizedek Priesthood? Bob was known as one of the remarkable prophetic . Sincerely yours, (signed) Alan Needham (Pastor). Bob Jones is remembered for his many end-time prophetic visions that have come to pass, including a prophetic word about the current corona virus pandemic given many years ago:". Some are only about 10% accurate, a very few of the most mature prophets are approaching 85% to 95% accuracy. And today, the KC Chiefs made the history books again as they defeated the Philadelphia Eagles 38-35, according to BBC. ALLEGED SUPERNATURAL EXPERIENCES IN HIS EARLY DAYS (which had a reverse effect of causing him to run wholeheartedly into sin) BJ: =Bob Jones ..When I was about nine years old, I was walking down a dusty road in the middle of summer in Arkansas. 2Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,3not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. Of course, I had no way to interpret that. This man uses little or no Scripture so we know He has no light in him (Isa. He said, Oh, were collecting those who are foreknown and predestinated for the end-times, for you see, theyll be the best of all the seed thats ever been. We had a youth camp there. There is no detailed information available concerning his spiritual life upon leaving the mental ward. This is disconcerting, considering the demonic influence in his life just prior, and esp. And in thy name cast out devils and in thy name done many wonderful works? Wait till you see the next two years! I have no words to express, toward any denial of Bobs disqualification, in light of the facts of his spurious history. That is not a biblical reason for divorce. Leaders at the infamous Kansas City Fellowship described him publicly as a "resident seer.". The pastor of the church mentioned in the story, and. No one in my background had ever heard the audible voice of God. It was the devils. This is no small error, it should be considered a heresy that changes the nature of God and man. Bobby Conner was also on hand with David Hertzog and his wife Stephanie. It is apparent that what Jones teaches is inserting his own ideas into passages to promote his own agenda- Latter Rain. The color blue can also mean one is not getting enough oxygen. Im Christel Berns. If you say youre sick, youll be (and remain) sick. concerning this mans behavior, but to my horror the leadership there began to put a great deal of stock in his prophesies. You are to write into their minds, as they write into the childrens minds. Jones explains to us that his healing power came when he was struck by lightning: It was about 76. Those predictions were never made. Believe for more. Because when my hands turn purple it means youre getting through to the Royalty; youre getting through to the top. 7. Naturally I rejected the prophesy as being false & was in turn rejected by them for being false. And of all things, the doctor. I had hoped that there would have been some discipline taken at S.K.C.F. With the proud prophetic promise of revival promoted, promulgated, and proclaimed across the charismatic stage, with the Chiefs Superbowl win, this is a good time to dismantle more prophetic deception! Their 2020 super bowl win made headlines as it was a historical moment for the Chiefs as it had been 50 long years since their last championship. Ever since that time in 74 when he was filled with the Holy Spirit he began to see the technicolor visions and the Lord began to visit him. , September 2008). When youve got this kind of anointing some of you are already entering that secret place of the Most High. seven young people under 30 died in a 6-week period. And when I first met him, I couldnt hardly comprehend that. I had to warn them. And so were in a day when were in such an immature stage of this. Occult type Influences seem to common with Jones. If you talk poverty, youll have it. Mike Bickle asked him in a dialogue You say that you saw the throne room? . In this message Bob Jones shares his life story from the very first time that the Lord called him at a young age. There will be a full manifestation of the gifts of the Holy Spirit in Gods timing. What's more, the prophecy said it would be a sign of a revival coming to America. died March 29, 1976, drowned at Swope Park. The Holy Spirit invaded the denominations. According to her bio at the Elijah List, "Bonnie moved to Charlotte, North Carolina, in 2001 to attend Morning Star School of Ministry; in 2005 she met Bob Jones and they were married the following year (he died in 2014). He then speaks of the day Aug. 8, 1975- the same story quoted above, but it is told a bit differently, minus some important details he shared in 1988. Bob Jones was known for his humility, love and powerful prophetic words from his heavenly visitations and encounters. . Hinn also admitted that he and his wife had been separated for years. You stood before the Lord BJ: He was showing me a throne room and He was showing me a seat that I needed to sit in one dayand there was a guide that stood in front of me, and he was like red sunglasses (F88, p.2-3)/, http://www.bobjones.org/?zone=/unionactive/view_page.cfm&page= 2020202020Photos202620Bio 27s2020202020 Bob Jones Web Site, When only seven years old and walking on a dirt road in Arkansas; the Arch Angel Gabriel appeared to Bob Jones on a white horse and blew a double silver trumpet in his face. [Book], Cross Triple Package 20% Discount [BOOKS], Deceivers and False Prophets Among Us [book], http://thequickenedwordcommunity.com/cgi-bin/members/cforums.cgi?forumid= 112372859729293postid=9990224019736 action=messagesthreadid=9990224019736), Sound Doctrine for a Glorious Church [podcast], What the Bible says about Effeminate Men [podcast] [shorts video], WHY this Asbury Ordeal is a Blessing [podcast], Judging and Examining Ourselves [podcast], The Marriage Supper of the Lamb in Heaven [video]. I did not know until after I had sensed an uneasiness in my spirit about Mike, that Mike was the pastor of the church. MB: He said, I havent had visions in two nights! Two nights! That certain overcomers become immortal on the earth before Christ even returns. Hed say, They got me last night. when the prophetic is supposedly leading the way. If Mikes ministry and vision was built upon false prophecy, as difficult as it may seem to acknowledge, Mikes labour was in vain. More red Flags MB:When Bob first walked in the office on March 7, 1983, he said, Ive come to get you to believe in a movement that is worldwide and that is going to touch the nations of the earth withsuch power and glory that it will go far beyond the book of Acts. Also Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia and Finland. We have been praying for God to expose to the congregation at Kansas City Fellowship the errors in order that so many of Gods sincere people will not be damaged. he said,Because they rejected me many placesand the Lord has shown me many times, and He (God) said this, this group that was yet to come, He said they would never, ever reject me. He said, This is my family till the end. And I thought, He s got to be the false prophet for sure. Any guy that prophesies that Imgoing to accept him, he is for sure the false prophet. Get a daily devotional and encouraging 2-3minute video direct to your inbox. It gave me understanding of what has been unfolding over the years. Every miracle, sign and wonder that has ever been in the Bible theyll move in it consistently. Most ministries in Kansas City who had contact with him did not believe his prophecies and visions were truly from God. At the age of 13 or 15 (two different accounts), he supposedly is taken to heaven, and a guide who appears looking like red sunglasses, protects him from Gods glory, saying, this was Gods way of calling and commissioning him for their new important earth-changing work that could go out from Americas Midwest., 20 years of debauchery, drinking and demonization led him to Topeka Veterans Hospital mental ward, where, on drugs, this devil come and he said, Everybody has just mistreated you all your life. Quoting Jesus on the last days: Matthew 24:11And many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many. (NASV) Matthew 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. (NASV). Do You Know These 14 Hebrew Names of God? d.His prophetic ministry is rejected by church after church, until he meets Mike Bickle. When we first met Paul in the early 1990s his story was one that was quite dramatic. Its when I got saved, I started knowin the Lord. Vol. 14:13, NKJV). The people and pastor grew weary of this continuous and wearisome foretelling of earthquakes and tragedies coming until I, as pastor and shepherd of the sheep, asked Bob Jones to come with me and another pastor to my study to counsel him. This is hardly the case as they use Revelation 19:10-11 as a proof text. Since that time he has seen many, many times five to ten visions and dreams a night. Christians do not bow before anything but God. Here is the transcript from Prophet Bob Jones from the Florida Revival and Healing Outpouring in Lakeland, Florida. They consist of Voices, angels, and translations to heaven which give him revelations that are not only contrary to Scripture but are easily categorized as of the New Age variety of spirituality. Your email address will not be published. Help me, Lord Jesus. All rights reserved. Bob Jones Prophecy Regarding Billy Graham . We discuss how God led him to this decision, his thoughts and feelings behind the decision and we also answer all the questions everyone has about . Whatever is communicating to Jones has some hair raising tails to tell. This is right out of the Latter Rain/manifest sons of God manual. But from that time forth my hands worked funny. Not to be concerned, the more practice they have inside the church the better they will get at it. At the same time, it was clear Paul was a gifted prophet. Bob Jones was told that the general level of prophetic revelation in the church was about 65% accurate at this time. (LogOut/ Theres some prayers thats gone on here that the answer is yes. Establishing and confirming divine truth (Gods written Word) in His saints, for their edification and equipping, and preaching the convicting Law and saving Gospel to lost souls. Harry Dematrillia -- A strongly gifted prophet who ministered often with Bob Jones in the early days of the Kansas City . your children will be moving into the ministries of Perfection . Amen! It would result in too many Annaniases and Sapphiras (The Prophetic Ministry Rick Joyner. Check out this powerful book on the Presence of the Holy Spirit. For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? (1 Peter 2:20). MB:=Mike Bikle And at 15 years old, you were taken out of the body. We seek offerings only from those who are helped. We pray God will use it to open the eyes of many and to help keep many of His children out of such deception. A former charismatic, said, The book is excellent and I have no doubt whatever that the Lord is going to use it in a mighty way. The trail of the Latter Rain continues to unfold, even though it was rejected in the late 40s, its acceptance today is by those who are unfamiliar with its past. It will eventually dawn on most people that this is error, but only after many lives are destroyed. And you the children of God will come into that Papa/ son relationship. Because the Lord told Bob that he was to come to help establish clarity and faith in the hearts of those young people so that when they believed, then there would be a whole new ability for the Lord to work in our midstwhen we believed the things about this movement. Isaiah 9:15: "The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail." Bob Jones first became known by being part of the Kansas city prophets back in the 1980's. David Cloud, Way of Life Literature, P.O. This false prophet can only gain access into the lives of those who are already deluded by their rejection of the LORD and His holy truth (2 Thess. He called me immediately after church that night and said, Dad, Ive been in the weirdest church Ive ever been in. After he described what was going on I advised him that what was happening was not Scriptural. I did caution Mike Bickle about the strangeness of the prophet at the time. Visions and Revelations.). When you drink enough, you become possessedI become possessed (F89, p. 29), 3. Papas saying, Come with more. CORRECTED BY OTHER MINISTRIES IN KANSAS CITY UNTIL FOUND BY MIKE BICKLE MB: Because Bob had had a long history of rejection over a number of years cause every time he prophesied, something would happen cause most of them were negativethey threw him out as being in the occult and to putting curses on people (ROH, p. 7), The accounts given by Bob Jones about being rejected are untrue. 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